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Really like this. Keep being good about immigration, the Guardian!
Meanwhile, MPs from both major parties had the switch flipped in their heads that makes them link everything to immigration, causing their jaws to mechanically flap open and say: “Well, Nigel Farage is basically right about everything but you should still vote for us because $ERROR (Reason not found, please restart your political process).”

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Date: 2017-01-13 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
'The truth is that immigration only has negative impacts on people when they are already in trouble. If you’re in an area where one job in McDonalds gets 6,000 applications, kicking out some Lithuanians won’t suddenly reinvigorate high-tech manufacturing.'

Whilst the Guardian would love to lay the blame for being 'in trouble' on recent administrations, a lot of people have been in trouble for a very long time indeed, and had that trouble significantly exacerbated by immigration. For much of that time the left has been telling those people 'don't blame immigration; immigration is wonderful, don't be ignorant racists and blame immigrants when it is all about the infrastructure' whilst not doing anything much about infrastructure. Now the left is after the votes that might go to UKIP, it assumes it might win them if adopts UKIP rhetoric. So, no change there, then; business as usual treating the working class electorate like morons.

Sadly, my experience of the lib dems thus far is that are just patronising that section of the electorate in a nicer way.

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Date: 2017-01-13 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
I am not trying to pick a fight; I am the point where I shall probably simply stop voting, or engaging with politics at all.

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Date: 2017-01-13 06:47 pm (UTC)
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Frustrating that the UK's immigration sounds in the same class of awful as the US's. (Many years ago, my Scottish then-fiancé and I were trying to decide which country we wanted to live in. Both seemed pretty challenging. We got him through the US immigration system eventually, but it took me writing to my Senator to do it.)

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